Radio Free Mormon: 052: The Renlunds, A Dilapidated Dinghy, and Church Wack-A-Mole Part 1

Today we tackle the Elder and Sister Renlund Devotional from January 13th 2019. We dissect the Renlunds two parables and their commentary about doubts and those who have them. Along the way we tackle their comparing the Church to a Dilapidated Dinghy as well as their concept of Church Wack-A-Mole. This is a three part series and we hope you enjoy!!!


7 thoughts on “Radio Free Mormon: 052: The Renlunds, A Dilapidated Dinghy, and Church Wack-A-Mole Part 1

  1. LDS Church is more like a pretend ship built on dry land. If you figure it out you just walk away. All around it there are people living a settled life on the ground, in normal houses. The passengers are kept away from any portholes or open decks.

    The sea is a myth.

  2. Bill,

    Your comment about how much better your family is now reflects my own experience. My family is exponentially better now. As soon I quit following my local leaders and the church in general my life shot up in every way. Now that I am completely out it has improved more. As a matter of fact I have never felt more stable, emotionally and spiritually and financially and everything. I had not realized how much I lived my life in fear as a mormon. My experience seems to be different from others as I have never been sad one moment that it is all false. I sing praise every day Joseph Smith was and is a fraud. Thank God.

  3. Having joined Mormonism in the 1970s like you RFM I well remember other talks and lessons with the theme from Bruce McKonkies caravan talk. I think the purpose was to make us feel insignificant and disposable. And to feel lucky to be in this caravan no matter what. The actual entitled person in reality is not the rank and file member but is the institution and its leaders who feel entitled to our time, money and unquestionable loyalty without any real gratitude from the institution.

  4. At around 29 minutes in, you say you are done with the analogy. I was hoping there was another part. Please continue the updated RFM analogy. The captain tells the boys and girls to pay no attention to the water coming in and not to listen to anyone else that is telling them there is water coming in. The captain then “catches” a boy telling someone else about the water coming in. Note he is not destroying a boat, but trying to help and raise awareness. The captain has no patience and he throws the boy overboard. He then proceeds to tell the other boys and girls that the boy was secretly trying to sink the boat and that he threw him out of the boat as an act of love for him, in hopes he sees his wrongdoing and comes back to the boat one day.

  5. On the Renlund dinghy and wack-a-mole talk: As an older church member, born and bred, and also an active but truth seeking and in many peoples eyes a bit fringe member I found the Renlund talk the worst, most offensive talk I have ever heard.
    I had delayed listening to it, and had listened to the Corbridge talk before going back to this one. The Renlund talk knocked the Corbridge one out of bottom place.
    In the Corbridge talk I, the truth seeker/doubter, was told that I was an antagonist and put in the same sin category as pornography. The Renlund talk has me now being a “snake oil salesman, mocker, indolent, double minded child, captive by the devil, evil, of the devil, lazy, unworthily partaking of the sacrament, perpetual doubter, and spiritually bankrupt.” Wow! I am going to hell!
    As one who with an open mind who has (truly) read every JS paper produced by the church, listened to hundreds of different speakers and points of view from both apologists and truth seekers, I am not so much offended as bemused by this talk. And, I don’t know any other way to say this, but the talk was seriously ignorant and arrogant. Are these talks vetted?
    The fishing boat “parable”, in my opinion, and I think you and Bill did a great job with this, highlighted the internal challenges in the church rather than to discredit the doubter.
    Having had experience with boats and fishing, I know that there are things that every fisherman is very aware of:
    1. Your boat is always in the best repair possible. You never know when you are going to hit rough seas and need your boat to be in top condition to keep you from getting injured and getting your home alive. Even more important when your boat is in shark infested waters!
    2. You never let go of the tiller – there is always control over the engine and rudder. If you let go of the tiller what happens? The boat goes in circles.
    3. Deaf fishermen always have hearing aids. In the darkness hearing becomes critical. Having come in to port after dark across dangerous bars I know, as all good fisherman do, that your ability to hear is essential. You must pick up on any change of wind, wave direction, waves crashing…
    4. Flies, rotting fish, stale water and crackers. Not on my boat or any true fisherman’s boat. Things that may make you ill have no place. Food is always fresh, cleanliness is paramount. Slippery decks cause injury and death.
    It is a great parable but in a far different way than how the Renlunds’ interpreted it. There is certainly a message here but it is totally opposite to what they are delivering, and it is arguably a truer message. The boat has sadly been allowed to get into a state of disrepair, it has sometimes been allowed to go in circles or wander off course. The good food is not longer healthy but is indeed stale to the point where it could make you ill. The decks need washing as they have become slippery and dangerous.
    The boat desperately needs to be drydocked for a few days, the barnacles need to be scrubbed off (de-fouled), the dents need to be filled, the paint needs to be rubbed down – in this case back to bare wood – reprimed and repainted, the decks need to be scrubbed and cleaned, the food and water needs to be restocked, the motor which appears to blow a lot of smoke needs to reconditioned, the fisherman needs new boots – clothes – hearing aid. The fisherman must know that with a boat in this state no-one is going to want to come on board, and even worse he probably is not going to catch any fish (if the boat is in this condition what are his nets and lines like?)
    Ask a fisherman “how often do you clean your boat?” they will answer – “every time it is used”.
    The good fisherman knows that they must put their boat into drydock at least every second season, that equipment must be in good repair – otherwise you risk drowning and death.
    This is great little parable, but it teaches a lesson opposite to that told by the Renlunds.
    And on a final note: Roger Federer just slipped from 2 to number 6 on the world men’s tennis rankings.

  6. Maybe another thing this parable is showing then, is that we are not ‘real fishermen.” We are only the hired hands- volunteers even, who are just trying really hard to do the work for the ONE TRUE Fisherman. We fall short.- WAY SHORT! But we love him, and we are trying our best, and He is not far from us and although He might let us drift a little now and then,( because he is allowing us to learn) He wont let us drift over a waterfall., and he will make sure that we dont drift out of the path that will bring us home.
    We dont need to trust man, but we CAN trust God, and trust that he has got this, and has a beautiful way of using imperfect men and women to bring beauty and goodness to the world, and to bring us home to Him. Look for and hang on to everything that is good.

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