Tonight, Radio Free Mormon shows how the LDS Church continues to hide its history.
He first gives a whirlwind tour of the four primary accounts of Joseph Smith’s First Vision.
RFM then looks at the new church history titled “Saints” and exposes the contortions the authors go through in order to tell a faith promoting account of the First Vision without ever mentioning the contradictions between the various accounts.
In order to see how the LDS Church continues to hide its history, we have to be as conversant with the different First Vision accounts as are the church historians who gloss over the differences and contradictions in “Saints.”
It takes a thief to catch a thief.
And Radio Free Mormon definitely catches the church historians off first base in their creative, if not deceptive, recounting of Joseph Smith’s First Vision!
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RFM enjoy your podcasts! Especially your Defender of the Faith series! Keep it up!
I Appreciate all the hard work that went into this. Love the mind field analogy. But listening to this made me really sad too. I don’t know if this part of the Saints book qualifies as suppression or not but they are certainly piling on the obfuscation sauce. Yet, however cleverly they have done this, eventually it will leave bitterness in the mouths of truth seekers. To know that even after all we have gone through in the struggle for transparency we get this?! It makes my stomach turn. So while I enjoyed this episode and the continued brilliance of RFM, I must adjourn for some lovely cherry flavored Tums. Thanks again Mormon historians.
Great podcast as usual. I really enjoy your podcasts, RFM.
I was curious about the difference in the ages of the different accounts. Did I hear correctly that Joseph says he’s 16 years old in the 1832 version? And 14 years of age in the 1835 version? He can’t remember how old he was when he had this life changing experience?! By the time he writes these 12 years and 15years etc, have elapsed since the event of 1820. Why did he wait so long to write these down? That in and of itself seems suspicious.
When I was 14 I had a very spiritual experience via a dream involving myself and the savior. I was told by my seminary teacher to write it down immediately. But the fact of the matter is that I have never forgotten exactly what happened in that experience. The dream is forever solidified in my brain. Every part of it. So when I talk with my TBM family and they give me excuses like ‘he was just trying to figure out what happened to him and that’s why it evolved like it did.’ I just want to scream! I also had a friend who had a life after death experience wherein she experienced the same thing as I where every second was indelibly stamped in her brain. So…. I find this so disappointing. I’m disappointed that I didn’t have this info available to make an educated decision when I was 14 and listening to the missionaries. In many respects my life in the church was a positive experience and am glad I had the word of wisdom and law of chastity, etc to raise my kids with. But something definitely changed after the correlation committee and those types of committees were introduced into the church. Things started to go south and it seemed the only important thing was to stay in goose step with the 15. Follow the prophet/profit! So disappointing. I now call myself a ‘non believing Mormon’ as I still consider many in the church as my fellow tribesman/women. But i’m often embarrassed to tell anyone I’m a Mormon. So I just say i’m Christian. Anyway, I’m rambling. Thanks again for the podcast. I’ll go back to finish listening.
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