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Mormonism LIVE: 033: President Nelson’s Flight of Death

Today We explore a story President Nelson has told for years about a flight he was on in the 1970’s. He reports the plane’s engine exploding, the wing catching fire, a death spiral by the plane, the chaos aboard, and the plane’s landing in a farmer’s field. This story had many questioning the truthfulness of his account but there was never a smoking gun to get to the truth of the matter………. until now.

WHERE PRESIDENT NELSON OR OTHERS HAVE TOLD THE STORY

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1992/05/doors-of-death?lang=eng

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-argentina-2019

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/3/28/22355277/president-nelson-invites-all-to-feel-the-peace-and-hope-of-easter-by-focusing-on-the-savior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=EMwKxmTLaCs&ab_channel=TheChurchofJesusChristofLatter-daySaints

Russell M. Nelson, From Heart to Heart: An Autobiography (Salt Lake City: Nelson, 1979)

Russell M. Nelson: Father, Surgeon, Apostle – Spencer J Condie: Author

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/friend/1994/06/most-important?lang=eng Russell M. Nelson, The Gateway We Call Death (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1995)

https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2004-09-18/gospel-principles-vital-to-correct-living-94995

https://www.deseret.com/2006/4/15/19948411/death-is-part-of-life-ex-surgeon-says

https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2018-09-03/president-nelson-delivers-historic-message-to-dominican-latter-day-saints-in-spanish-8931

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/president-nelson-shares-5-lessons-life-has-taught-me-with-49000-in-safeco-field?lang=eng

https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2018-10-26/president-nelson-finds-church-thriving-in-uruguay-thanks-to-multiple-generations-of-members-missionaries-156122

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-argentina-2019

THE CLAIMS PRESIDENT NELSON HAS MADE THAT WERE RED FLAGS

1.) One Engine on a small Two Engine plane Exploded.
2.) Said Engine caught fire.
3.) In the Explosion flammable material was spread to the plane and the plane itself was on fire.
4.) The plane did a “Death Spiral” which extinguished the fire
5.) The Pilot “turned on the Other Engine”
6.) The plane landed in a “Farmer’s Field”

THE FACTS THAT ALLOWED OTHERS TO NARROW WHAT TO LOOK FOR

 1.) The Date of the flight was reported as November 12, 1976
2.) He was flying from SLC to St. George to attend the inauguration of W. Rolfe Kerr as the president of Dixie College.
3.) Anytime a plane incurs a malfunction or there is a mechanical flight issue or pilot error the Law requires such to be recorded. The Explosion would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The plane on fire would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The Death Spiral would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The landing in a Farmer’s Field
would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report.

IF THE STORY OCCURRED THE WAY PRESIDENT NELSON HAS REPORTED, THERE ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE A REPORT THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. MOST FABRICATIONS HINGE ON SOME GRAIN OF TRUTH, SO MANY IN THE POST-MORMON COMMUNITY WENT INTO DETECTIVE MODE.

THE FLIGHT REPORT FOR THIS FLIGHT WAS FINALLY LOCATED (IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND DUE TO THE MUNDANE ISSUES INCURRED THAT SEEMINGLY CONTRADICT NELSON’S STORY )



https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/wNa3AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA1090&dq=skywest+incidents+1976

1.) Engine never exploded and continued to run though rough
2.) There was no Engine Fire.
3.) The Plane itself was never on fire
4.) The Other Engine was never off
4.) The plane made a “Precautionary landing at the airport in Delta Utah and not a farmer’s field
5.) There are other smaller issues with number of passengers, length of flight, cutting fuel line to both engines, and the date of the flight but we grant some benefit of the doubt for distorted memory.

If the Church or its defenders want to claim the conclusion that this flight one day earlier is NOT the flight President Nelson is speaking about, then the burden of proof is on them to provide the evidence. To claim there was another “SKY WEST” flight also going from SLC TO SAINT GEORGE” that had “WORSE ISSUES” “ONE DAY LATER”, then provide the “MANDATORY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FLIGHT REPORT” of said flight. Without such, said conclusion by the defenders would require more conjecture and allowances.


The Plane believed to be the One Nelson rode that day

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7 thoughts on “Mormonism LIVE: 033: President Nelson’s Flight of Death

  1. One time in Elders’ Quorum about five years ago, a man told a story about a commercial flight that he was on that was in great danger. He gave several details (approximate year, time of year, the origin and destination of the flight, etc.) that allowed me to look for the incident in the NTSB’s database (https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/Index.aspx). I was never able to find anything in the database that met the description he gave (he said, among other things, that the plane had to make an emergency landing, and that a lady died from a heart attack as a result, etc.). I decided that he was probably greatly exaggerating the magnitude of the incident. To his credit, that Elders’ Quorum lessen was more interesting than some others I have attended.

    My guess is that President Nelson has been doing the same: greatly exaggerating the incident.

  2. RFM…the is by far my favorite thing you do!

    I’d love a marathon of these scum bags getting exposed! God said, ‘vengeance is mine’, but Ive heard it added, ‘and if you’re good , I’ll let you watch’

    Don’t know if I’m good, but can’t get enough. It’s scratching a very deep itch.

  3. Feathering refers to adjusting the angle of the propeller blades by rotating them along their shaft. This is something you would do after you shut down an engine to reduce the drag it would cause on the aircraft in motion. If you looked at the prop head on, you would want to see the edges of the blades and very little of the blade faces, thus allowing it to move through air more easily. Not sure that this was clear to all.

    Also, an engine fire would not require a radical change in elevation or flight speed to extinguish – shutting off the fuel does the trick.

  4. As a professional pilot with over 10,000 hours and having even worked for the airline in the story I think your analysis of the embellishments by Ole Russ are correct. Sadly it’s a classic big fish story where a minnow becomes a whale. I suppose I have performed many “miracles” over the course of my career responding to various malfunctions. The biggest miracle I see is that so many leaders can continue to get away with BS stories used to promote faith.

  5. Prophet Nelson:
    I just told a lie.
    No, wait, I didn’t LIE…
    I just used my imagination…
    And it worked!

    Nelson’s father:
    You’re making things up again, Nelson.

    Prophet Nelson:
    But it worked, dad!

    Prophet Nelson:
    You’re stretching the truth again,
    And you know it-

    JOSEPH SMITH:
    Don’t be a Fibbing Fran, Nelson.

    Prophet Nelson:
    Joseph Smith…?

    SMITH AND FATHER:
    Because a lie is a lie.

    Prophet Nelson:
    It’s not a lie!

    MORONI, MORMON, SMITH, and FATHER:
    You’re making things up again, Nelson.

    Prophet Nelson:
    Oh, conscience!

    MORONI, MORMON, SMITH, and FATHER:
    You’re taking the holy word
    And adding fiction!
    Be careful how you proceed, Nelson.
    When you fib, there’s a price.

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